Comments on: The upcoming schism in the Church

By: Garry Sahl

Garry Sahl — Sat, 29 Jan 2011 01:19:12 +0000

When Tom and our friends went door to door, and social networked to unite concerned citizens to convince our MP’s to raise the age of sex consent in 2008 ; we discovered many of the people who helped us were former Catholics who were driven out by liberals into agnosticism. It is good to see that this Site is trying to do what the late Tom Landers and fellow sanctity of life professors are trying to do in our Pagan Western Civilization. We live in a Civilization where atheism is enforced by establishment. This is no longer the country that many died to preserve in The Great Wars. Politically Correct Relativism is taught by decree now. Look what the Jackboots did to Ruth and friends. Obviously when faith is shattered by liberals many people turn to agnosticism. Tom believed that when common sense prevailed the floodgates will be opened to our sanctity of life worldview. We must continue to pray and act to accomplish this end.

By: Young Canadian RC Male

Young Canadian RC Male — Sat, 29 Jan 2011 00:59:36 +0000

I say let it happen. Let the Church shrink and be filled with dynamic truly faithful clergy and families who believe the Truth wholy and practice it.

Better yet if Pope Benedict wants to get a leg up on those schismatics, He should come outright and say it exists and that any bishop, clergy, or lay member who believes or practices contrary to the Magisterium of the Church and doesn’t fulfill their basic 6 Catholic obligations is already part of it. That ought to take away some of their fire.

By: Steve G

Steve G — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 23:45:05 +0000

Hi Sean,

Thanks for the comment.

First, let me echo Susan’s comment on the new translation. It is essentially a “correction” for the current translation, which is out of whack with what the wording should be. The new Missal will bring us back to the original.

I agree whole-heartedly with your disappointment in the bishops. But even if your parish were to become “un-Christian” or if your bishop becomes a heretic, you need not leave the Church (capital “C”) because that’s the only Church that Christ promised to protect from *complete* failure. Yes, it will fail badly in some places (already is) but the official teaching will remain pure. You just need to look over the shoulder of your local community and keep your eyes on the Pope. Besides, you can still get the sacraments in your local parish. Don’t give up the sacraments because your local clergy are wing-nuts! Their unholiness does not invalidate the sacraments! Hang in there!

By: Susan

Susan — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:09:39 +0000

Sean,

You need not be concerned with the new translation of the Roman Missal. It was Pope John Paul II who in 2000 announced the revised version of the Missale Romanum. It is to be released later this year. I suspect it will be released everywhere in December (Advent). The USCCB has a wonderful web page explaining the new translation: http://www.usccb.org/romanmissal/ You may also want to follow Father Z at his site: http://wdtprs.com/blog/ He comments on lots of things including the new translation. I think you’ll like him.

By: Sean

Sean — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:48:00 +0000

I believe that the people who aren’t Catholic are emboldened each time a bishop or any clergy does not speak out against them or won’t excommunicate them. For myself, if I see the Church watering down to the point of being non-Christian, aka United and/or Anglican, I will walk away as I would have comfort in knowing that I won’t be participating in an un-Christian Church. But that road isn’t there. Look at the Halton bishop who won’t do anything about the school board. Look at the CCCB. I’ve heard that there will be a new (and I don’t know the term for it) liturgy in the next year, 2012. I shudder to think how they’ve changed the wording of the Holy Scripture. The people who are on the inside of the Church have corrupted it and won’t quit until they’ve succeeded, so this is only where I disagree with you.

The Catholic Church has to take the lead in many social issues as we are the largest denomination, it is our responsibility. Archbishop O’Brien speaks out against the CPC’s bill regarding human trafficking but say nothing about the bill supporting cross-dressers. They’re so way out of wack with common sense and decency. I’ve lost any trust or faith in them. But I should keep reminding myself that there’s only one person that I can trust, Jesus Christ. Don’t put your faith in man, put it in God and Him alone.