Comments on: The Spiritists of Vatican II and the Hermeneutic of Rupture Keep Rolling with Hierarchical Endorsement http://www.socon.ca/the-spiritists-of-vatican-ii-and-the-hermeneutic-of-rupture-keep-rolling-with-hierarchical-endorsement/ Confronting the culture of death Fri, 23 Nov 2012 20:13:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: rrbill http://www.socon.ca/the-spiritists-of-vatican-ii-and-the-hermeneutic-of-rupture-keep-rolling-with-hierarchical-endorsement/#comment-43111 rrbill Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:13:06 +0000 http://www.socon.ca/?p=25596#comment-43111 If that is so how come nobody holds these particular views who is not on the payroll of the Catholic Church or one of its subsidiaries. I don't have a dog in this fight--I lead a celibate life and I am not Canadian. But God didn't give me a brain because some word comes out from the Chancery and I am supposed to say yessir, yessir. (Never yes ma'm). If that is so how come nobody holds these particular views who is not on the payroll of the Catholic Church or one of its subsidiaries. I don’t have a dog in this fight–I lead a celibate life and I am not Canadian. But God didn’t give me a brain because some word comes out from the Chancery and I am supposed to say yessir, yessir. (Never yes ma’m).

]]> By: Steve G http://www.socon.ca/the-spiritists-of-vatican-ii-and-the-hermeneutic-of-rupture-keep-rolling-with-hierarchical-endorsement/#comment-42901 Steve G Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:22:38 +0000 http://www.socon.ca/?p=25596#comment-42901 "Those arguments amount to 'I'm telling you so'" That's not true, Bill. The Church welcomes open discussion about legitimate issues. However, She should not waste time with these theologians whose arguments have been debunked a million times over during the past centuries. It's like if a scientist went to a conference and made a presentation about the Earth being flat. Not only would he be removed from the podium and thrown out of the conference, but his scientific accreditation/ license would probably be revoked because he's holding positions that have been long discredited through science. It's the same here. Theologiams that argue for abortion, contraception or same-sex marriage are a laughing stock and a disgrace to their profession because they're holding positions that have long been discredited by logic and the natural law. “Those arguments amount to ‘I’m telling you so’”

That’s not true, Bill. The Church welcomes open discussion about legitimate issues. However, She should not waste time with these theologians whose arguments have been debunked a million times over during the past centuries.

It’s like if a scientist went to a conference and made a presentation about the Earth being flat. Not only would he be removed from the podium and thrown out of the conference, but his scientific accreditation/ license would probably be revoked because he’s holding positions that have been long discredited through science.

It’s the same here. Theologiams that argue for abortion, contraception or same-sex marriage are a laughing stock and a disgrace to their profession because they’re holding positions that have long been discredited by logic and the natural law.

]]> By: RRBILL http://www.socon.ca/the-spiritists-of-vatican-ii-and-the-hermeneutic-of-rupture-keep-rolling-with-hierarchical-endorsement/#comment-42885 RRBILL Sat, 15 Sep 2012 01:59:43 +0000 http://www.socon.ca/?p=25596#comment-42885 The more I read this newspaper the more concerned I am with the intellectual rigidity of the North American Catholic Church, whose arguments boil down to "I'm telling you so." I am sorry that my mother was more demanding than my sweet and easygoing Episcopal father and had me brought up Catholic. However, having said that, I am grateful to socon.ca for printing my comments, which are blocked in the US version of Life Times, in my native country. The more I read this newspaper the more concerned I am with the intellectual rigidity of the North American Catholic Church, whose arguments boil down to “I’m telling you so.” I am sorry that my mother was more demanding than my sweet and easygoing Episcopal father and had me brought up Catholic. However, having said that, I am grateful to socon.ca for printing my comments, which are blocked in the US version of Life Times, in my native country.

]]> By: Frances Wilkinson http://www.socon.ca/the-spiritists-of-vatican-ii-and-the-hermeneutic-of-rupture-keep-rolling-with-hierarchical-endorsement/#comment-42884 Frances Wilkinson Fri, 14 Sep 2012 23:55:08 +0000 http://www.socon.ca/?p=25596#comment-42884 This to me is very dis-heartening, and I am sorry I do not fully understand nor do I think God expects me to. He says be child-like, speak His Truth. Children would scrunch up their faces and say "Why, Daddy is this being allowed when it goes against what you tell us?" and why are there men whom You have appointed to represent You, Daddy, and What You say in Truth, allowing this in the first place?" They have had plenty of time Daddy to do something about this.Daddy is this not part of their job, to keep an alert eye and ear out about this Word of Yours -Dissension- and make very sure, Daddy that it does not creep in. You told us Daddy beware of all the false voices and prophets later on, and You instructed us to be very wary of deception and anything that does not follow Your Precise Word, Command , and Instruction regarding this. Gee, Daddy, how will people be able to tell that we are "Catholic" and Yours, when they see this. They will laugh Daddy and be confused, and say, "Those people cannot be really Catholic, can they?" Oh well...Daddy, I guess they don't care about You...You know what I mean,,,,I guess they don't love You, because when I was a child, You taught me obedience, cause You loved me first, and You said if I loved You back then I would obey You. Sorry Dad I did not for so long....I am trying now though, and I cry when You do, too, sometimes, and I know my Mom, Mary does too. I will get down on my knees,,,, and I will pray... Love, and Adoration of You and Your Truth. alone Thank You for Your Love and Mercy, and I am sorry that this is happening in a school that is supposed to be representative of You, Lord. The little girl You saved from eternal fire Who wants to love You more and more and make You Smile if only for a bit. It must be so hard Daddy...for You, I mean, , the indifference about You , and What You did, I mean , suffering and dying for us out of Love for us and then this.... I mean from, us, Your very own....You go through daily crucifixions all over again, from this sin of ours, and then we start again. Did we not learn anything the first time? Your Divine Mercy leaves me speechless... This to me is very dis-heartening, and I am sorry I do not fully understand nor do I think God expects me to. He says be child-like, speak His Truth.
Children would scrunch up their faces and say
“Why, Daddy is this being allowed when it goes against what you tell us?” and why are there men whom You have appointed to represent You, Daddy, and What You say in Truth, allowing this in the first place?” They have had plenty of time Daddy to do something about this.Daddy is this not part of their job, to keep an alert eye and ear out about this Word of Yours -Dissension- and make very sure, Daddy that it does not creep in. You told us Daddy beware of all the false voices and prophets later on, and You instructed us to be very wary of deception and anything that does not follow Your Precise Word, Command , and Instruction regarding this. Gee, Daddy, how will people be able to tell that we are “Catholic” and Yours, when they see this. They will laugh Daddy and be confused, and say, “Those people cannot be really Catholic, can they?” Oh well…Daddy, I guess they don’t care about You…You know what I mean,,,,I guess they don’t love You, because when I was a child, You taught me obedience,
cause You loved me first, and You said if I loved You back then I would obey You. Sorry Dad I did not for so long….I am trying now though, and I cry when You do, too, sometimes, and I know my Mom, Mary does too.
I will get down on my knees,,,, and I will pray…

Love, and Adoration of You and Your Truth. alone
Thank You for Your Love and Mercy, and I am sorry that this is happening in a school that is supposed to be representative of You, Lord.
The little girl You saved from eternal fire
Who wants to love You more and more and make
You Smile if only for a bit.
It must be so hard Daddy…for You, I mean, , the indifference about You , and What You did, I mean , suffering and dying for us out of Love for us and then this…. I mean from, us, Your very own….You go through daily crucifixions all over again, from this sin of ours, and then we start again. Did we not learn anything the first time?

Your Divine Mercy leaves me speechless…

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