Over at Big City Loser, Smithers offers these comments on the attack on FD….

Flanders is planning an on-line petition, and though I don’t sign such things,my good buddy Galactus, Eater of Worlds, will probably show up and put his name to it. When details become
available, I will let everyone know. I’m sure “Heywood J. Blome” will want to show his support for Free Speech, Liberty, and etc.

How so predictably liberal. Let someone else fight (and pay for) something you enjoy. Isn’t that always the case with a socialist? It’s always someone else’s problem, and if a problem is to be addressed, let the government (i.e. somebody else) take on the problem. Rarely do you see a liberal taking on any sort of individual sacrifice or personal responsibility. The whole global warming hysteria is certainly a prime example of that one.

That’s why it usually takes conservatives to fight for and defend our country and its REAL values. One could kind of respect people who choose not to participate in something they don’t believe in, even if they are in the wrong. We can cut some slack to them, giving them the benefit of the doubt.

But for liberals who sit back and enjoy the hard fought battles by conservatives while not even lifting a finger (or a pen for that matter) in support? That’s a bit much – even for a liberal.

It’s not like we are asking them to actually contribute money or anything. That would be simply unfathomable.

And the fact that this is not about FD at all, but for the “right” to post their vile garbage, which on average and without prejudice, is 100 fold greater than you will ever see on a typical conservative discussion board. And they know it too.

But time will tell how they react when one of their own gets nailed for a “human rights” abuse. And when they try and rally support to end this madness, we can all just sit back on this side of the aisle and quip:

“We don’t sign such things.”

Indeed.

(London) The president of the Islamic Medical Association has been called before Britain’s medical profession’s board of conduct following a particularly vicious attack on gays in a medical journal.

In a letter to the editor of Pulse – a journal for British doctors – Dr Muhammad Siddiq allegedly said that gay patients deserve neither help nor pity but they do need “the stick of the law to put them on the right path.”

“There is punishment and fine if you throw rubbish or filth in the streets. The gays are worse than the ordinary careless citizen,” the letter said. It also claimed that gays “are causing the spread of disease with their irresponsible behavior. They are the root of many sexually transmitted diseases.”

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Remember what I said earlier about the false alliance between Islam and the Left? There will come a time when Islam will not accept this kind of treatment from the Secular commisars. And when that happen….

Cue the Cars….

Let the good times roll.

Let the good times roll.

Let….the….goooooood…tiiiiimes….rollllllllllllllllll.

Watch this clip from Michael Coren’s show regarding the complaint launched against FD.

Two things:

#1 – Bill Whatcott is not the subject of the complaint. Connie Wilkins is. That does not really come through in the “discussion.”

#2 – Michael should have flattened these two “ladies” by reminding them that Mr. Whatcott made it clear THREE times that his beef was not against normal Muslims but extremist and violent ones.

Wiesbaden, Germany – In the Rhine Valley city of Mannheim, the glittering minaret of Germany’s biggest mosque overshadows what was once the region’s most vibrant church, testifying to Muslims’ new confidence as Christian churches are closing down.

Years ago, 180 sisters of the Catholic order of the Sisters of the Divine Savior were the pulse of the city. Today, eight remain. Every weekend, roughly 150 Roman Catholics attend mass at the Liebfrauen Church, while up to 3,000 Muslims throng the Yavuz-Sultan-Selim mosque. Since the mosque was opened in 1995, Muslim shops and youth centers have become a magnet for the Muslim community.

Mannheim is not unique. Across Europe, the Continent’s fastest-growing religion is establishing its public presence after decades in basements and courtyards, changing not only the architectural look of cities, but also their social fabrics.

Hailed by many as a sign of Muslim integration, the phenomenon is also feared as evidence of a parallel Islamic world threatening Europe’s Christian culture.

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Source

In other news….

NEW YORK, July 26, 2007 — Charles Merrill, the artist who recently edited the Holy Bible with a black marker and pair of sissors, has lately burned a rare Islamic Holy Book, The Koran, valued at $60,000.00, in an undisclosed Chicago location. “The purpose of editing and burning Abrahamic Holy Books is to eliminate homophobic hate,” Merrill stated. “Both ancient books are terrorist manuals.”

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So, in light of the Left’s support for the complaint against Free Dominion, I am reading these stories and I cannot help but shake my head.

I am wondering just how any thinking human being cannot see what the future holds.

I have a question for you, Mr. Lefty. When you finish your job at silencing Christians and social conservatives, making them completely voiceless and powerless, just who do you think you will be dealing with next?

When I ran against Dalton McGuinty and John Baird, the Liberal Party loved it because I was draining votes from the Conservative Party. The Liberals didn’t like me. But for them, I was the useful idiot who ensured that I would steal away some votes from their nearest competitor.

Well, it’s the same thing here, except that Christians and social conservatives are being squeezed out of the political landscape all together, and all that will remain are the Islamists and the Left to fight in the political new world order.

The Left and the Islamists have some very, very tough obstacles to overcome. These factions use each other to destroy social conservatives politically, but eventually they will have to deal with one another. And that is not going to be pretty for obvious reasons.

When the Left finally figures out that it made a very horrible mistake in squashing the civil liberties and power of their western conservative brethren, it will be too little and too late.

The enemy of your enemy is not always your friend.

There is a dark cloud rolling across this once Christian soil,
where the saints and martyrs once preached and toiled.

Do you not know that they came to bring the gospel of Jesus Christ,
to a nation which had not yet known or heard or seen the Light?

They shed their blood and preached the Good News,
but it cost them their lives for there was no freedom of speech to use.

And in our day, we must really wonder,
what are they thinking of us and our bankrupted culture?

So I must ask you my Catholic brethren,
do you even care anymore about this country’s direction?

You come to Mass and smile and say ,
“what a beautiful, lovely and wonderful day”.

“But my hour is up now and I must be going,
there’s much relaxation, comfort, and leisure to be enjoying.”

And when you leave that church on Sunday morn,
do you even know or recognize the hatred against us in this culture of scorn?

For if you did your moral duty and voted correctly,
we would not be in this mess today under yoke of tyrannical Lefties.

For I’ll tell you straight so there is no mistake: your vote for that liberal politician
will cost me my livelihood, my house, and my position.

When you receive Our Eucharistic Lord do you think of my children
who will have to pay dearly for your treacherous sin and poor decision?

Do you not know me? I am sure you do.
Because you wave to me sometimes and say “how do you do?”

I am the guy that comes to 9AM Mass with my wife and four children
to give God the glory, praise and submission.

“What a lovely family”, I sometimes hear you say,
“things surely are looking up for our church today”.

But what will you say when I am no longer there,
forced to sell my house, my possessions, indeed – all that I have -
because the kangaroo koolaid kourts have stripped me bare.

My Catholic Brethren, when the thought police come after me, will you even care?
Now that you have been too accustomed to this world and its snares.

Will you put up any resistance, will you risk anything at all?
Or will it be time to go back to eating popcorn, beer, and watching the game of ball?

And make no mistake so we all know the score to follow,
your inaction and sloth today consigns my children to the gallows tomorrow.

So I say ‘Repent! Repent!’ and let’s put things aright.
For God’s judgement is soon to fall whether you like it or not.

For calling yourself Catholic means diddly squat,
for a Catholic in name only means nothing to God.

“Away from me, away from me, you wicked people of tin,
for I know you not because you did not care enough to resist the man of sin.

Freedom and truth in my Son’s blood I gave to you,
but you chose instead to be ruled by the Star Chamber few.”

Students of history will have heard of SMERSH. It was a forerunner of the KGB, a Communist Party commissariat under Josef Stalin. SMERSH was empowered to investigate and arrest conspirators and public critics of “the Party” – people living in the former Soviet Union didn’t have constitutional freedoms.

Well, Canada has its own commissariats, in the form of Human Rights Commissions.

Some people refer to them as “kangaroo courts,” but that is misleading because they really are dangerous. That’s why I call them Commie-Commissions, and like SMERSH, they are empowered to investigate anyone who does not abide with the current stream of political correctness.

The most recent case that illustrates the Commie-Commissions’ contempt for free speech rights is a complaint against Connie Wilkins, the owner of www.freedominion.ca.

Read the rest here.

• National Post
• Life Site News
• Winnipeg Sun
• Catholic Exchange
• WorldNet Daily
• Washington Times
• Kingston Whig Standard
• Life Site News
• The Bloggers

What keeps a society civilized?

The Law, in part.

But the law itself is not what keeps society civilized. In reality, it is the respect for the law that does so.

As Canadian citizens, we have certain unalienable human rights as a free people. One of these rights is to be treated fairly under the law regardless of social demographic. We expect, nay demand, that if a crime is perpertrated against one person, then the law should punish the perpetrator for the crime committed, irrespective of who the victim is.

Yet today in Canada, the only persons who qualify to be discriminated against appear to be Christians.

In the case of the uproar caused by the complaint filed against Free Dominion, this observation is even more pronounced. A previous edition of Rabble.ca featured a strongly anti-Catholic cartoon caricature of Pope Benedict XVI. In the animated cartoon, the pope repeatedly marches to a statue of the Blessed Virgin Mary, then gives a Nazi salute with the caption “Heil Mary.”

Apparently, a Catholic complained to the Canadian Human Rights Commission. The complaint was dismissed. It remains to be seen, however, if the same result will forthcoming against Bill Whatcott for his comments (via Free Dominion) against radical Islam, which were well within the purview of reasonable debate and discussion.

If the decision against Free Dominion is not dismissed completely, how, I wonder, will anyone ask social conservatives and Christians, in particular, to respect the rule of law in this country?

Once the law loses the sense of objectivity and fairness, the people under its yoke will not remain there for too long without revolt. And, if the law becomes even more repressive and punitive, violence is not an impossibility.

The Left should not presume that the tyranny of these Kangaroo courts will not impact them. Because what keeps their government in power is the Right’s respect for the law, but when the sense of fairness and justice are removed from the law, then just how long can the oppressed give authority to those who abuse their duty?

The Islamists have long figured out that if you want to beat Western Civilization, you threaten it, intimidate it, and then attack it. They know that the Left wing of the political spectrum will buckle in and retreat, retreat, retreat. They retreat because they have no meaning beyond this world, and they would rather give up a little bit of territory and a little bit of freedom every day, then actually having to confront the terrible sacrifice it is going to cost for us to maintain our way of life. Islam has the after life. Athiestic Secularism does not. It is not difficult to see who is going to win.

And in there lies the enormous irony in this whole situation: the Right’s respect for the rule of law and the Left’s refusal to apply that law fairly will end up destroying our civilization.

O Canada, when are we going to stand on guard for thee?

July 25, 2007

Canadian Human Rights Commission
344 Slater Street, 8th Floor,
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 1E1

Dear Sir/Madam:

In the event that a human rights complaint is levied against the Commission for a human rights abuse, what is the protocol for mediation and adjudication between the parties? Since the Commission cannot obviously adjudicate against itself as the respondent, there must be another judicial body to hear the complaint in an unbiased fashion.

In the near future, I am considering launching a complaint against the Commission itself on the basis of religious discrimination. Before I do so, however, I would like to know what the process is.

Yours very truly,

John Pacheco
Social Conservatives United

Here are some observations about the Kangaroo Court’s proceedings against FD:

1) According to their website, it says the following about “Hate Messages”:

Hate messages

13. (1) It is a discriminatory practice for a person or a group of persons acting in concert to communicate telephonically or to cause to be so communicated, repeatedly, in whole or in part by means of the facilities of a telecommunication undertaking within the legislative authority of Parliament, any matter that is likely to expose a person or persons to hatred or contempt by reason of the fact that that person or those persons are identifiable on the basis of a prohibited ground of discrimination.

(2) For greater certainty, subsection (1) applies in respect of a matter that is communicated by means of a computer or a group of interconnected or related computers, including the Internet, or any similar means of communication, but does not apply in respect of a matter that is communicated in whole or in part by means of the facilities of a broadcasting undertaking.

(3) For the purposes of this section, no owner or operator of a telecommunication undertaking communicates or causes to be communicated any matter described in subsection (1) by reason only that the facilities of a telecommunication undertaking owned or operated by that person are used by other persons for the transmission of that matter. R.S., 1985, c. H-6, s. 13; 2001, c. 41, s. 88.

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So, in other words, if you are deemed to be an “owner or operator of a telecommunication undertaking”, you cannot be cited for complaints about “hatred”. The key here is the phrase “owner or operator of a telecommunication undertaking”. This should include discussion boards and not simply be restricted to Internet Service Providers. It is certainly sufficiently general for a broad interpretation.

2) Q.8 Has the Commission introduced any special measures to deal with hate on the Internet complaints?

The Commission recognizes that section 13 complaints are unique in both harm that hate causes and the special investigative challenges associated with investigating web-based activities. As a result, the Commission has instituted special measures to facilitate the investigation of section 13 complaints, including:

The assignment of all section 13 cases to the Anti-Hate Team which includes investigators with specialized expertise in the investigation of hate on the Internet.

Ongoing staff training to broaden knowledge about the nature of hate activity, its consequences and how to combat it.

A review of procedures and legal requirements to ensure that section 13 cases are dealt with expeditiously.

Source

And yet despite their committment to expeditious proceedings for all the parties involved, it took them over a year to inform Connie and Mark about the complaint. According to Mark Fournier, Ms. Gentes filed the complaint on June 4, 2006. The Canadian Human Rights Commission sat on this for a year.

3) A Tight Deadline, Doncha think?

July 16, 2007

File 2006057
Ms. Connie Wilkins
c/o Free Dominion

Dear Ms. Wilkins: I am the investigator designated under Part III of the Canadian Human Rights Act to investigate the complaint of Ms. [name omitted at this time] against Free Dominion….

I am currently awaiting your full response to the allegations which is due on 18 July 2007.

I wonder if this is something that is common practice with the CHRC? Are they this sloppy with conservatives or does their incompetence apply to everyone?

4) The Commissioners can refuse to deal with complaints which are more than one year old, or which are beyond the Commission’s jurisdiction.

The Federal Court can be asked by either party to review the Commission’s decision.

Source

The investigator gathers the information and evidence needed to prepare a report and makes a recommendation to the Commissioners. The investigator gives the respondent an opportunity to reply to the allegations. The investigator may interview witnesses or ask the respondent and complainant for documents or information. Both sides have a chance to review the investigator’s report and make submissions before the investigator presents the report to the Commissioners. Of course, the complainant and respondent may also reach a settlement during the investigation.

If the complaint is filed more than one year after the incident has occurred or if it appears to be beyond the Commission’s jurisdiction, the complaint will be sent directly to the Commissioners.

Source

Apparently it’s not acceptable to wait for a year to file a complaint after an incident has occurred, but it is totally acceptable for the Commission to wait a year before informing the alleged perpetrator (or victim, depending on your perpsective) of the complaint.

What kind of banana republic proceedings are these?

4) A complaint has been filed against me

After the Commission has notified you, the respondent, about the complaint, you must provide a response in which you will be able to give your position on the situation. The next step of the complaint process depends on the circumstances of the case. In some cases, the Commission may ask the complainant to first try another redress procedure. For example, the complainant may be able to file a grievance under a collective agreement or may be able to appeal a decision by a government department or agency under another Act of Parliament. Cases will usually be referred to the Alternative Dispute Resolution Branch to consider the possibility of mediation. Mediation is voluntary and confidential and if either side chooses not to participate, or if the mediation does not work, the file is assigned to an investigator.

The case is not supposed to be assigned to an investigator until (a) after the Respondent has received the complaint and filed a response and (b), in most cases, until after the parties have been given an opportunity to consider alternate dispute resolution. This was not done in FD’s case. An investigator was assigned before any response was received from FD. This is yet another example of a kangaroo bungle.

5) The respondent is advised of the complaint as soon as it is filed with the Commission. Source

One year is the Commission’s view of “as soon as it is filed with the Commission”. Another administrative blunder.

You little punk.

You come on FD, spewing your leftist garbage and accusing us of hate,
pretending you love freedom, democracy, and debate.

It was our Christian blood which gave you the right,
to come on FD and preach to us about your false human rights.

You slither on to FD and say it is full of racists and bi-gots,
but strangely you can’t stay away from lurking and even posting on our forum of “right wing nuts”.

Maybe there is something here you crave that you don’t get with your left wing hordes,
something honorable, exciting, and noble on this Free Dominion board.

“Tolerance, equality, and freedom!” you yelp for sea to sea,
but when push comes to shove, we are finding out these shouts only apply to thee.

How you have the audacity to presume on the right to post,
yet you can’t see your own foolish blindness if FD were ever reduced to toast.

But know this and know it well you little leftist punk,
if FD goes down, we certainly won’t be the only one.

For the same law which seeks to muzzle our freedom of speech and our rightful opinion,
won’t stop at us but will continue on well past Free Dominion.

So go ahead, please do, and post if you must,
we’ll stomach your rants, your hype, and your lefty thrusts.

We don’t expect you to agree with us or like us one little bit,
but for freedom’s sake, understand what this will mean to all of us – including you, you little leftist twit!

To listen to Connie’s performance on Michael Coren’s Show on CFRB today, click here.

To view the running commentary of FD posters, click here.

Mark Fournier
Free Dominion
July 21, 2007

Canadian Human Rights Commission vs Conservatism
Why we fight and how we’ll do it

To state the obvious, Free Dominion is not a hate site. The irony is rich in that a website that was set up to combat the liberal hatred of liberty is now being accused of inciting hatred itself. But it’s not in the least bit surprising, in fact, it was inevitable. Liberals must try to silence conservatives because they cannot compete with conservatives in the marketplace of ideas.

Enter, the Canadian Human Rights Commission.

The Canadian Human Rights Commission is a perfect example of something that shouldn’t be allowed to exist in a free society. Its primary function is to provide liberals with power they cannot legitimately wield. Dressed up as a part of the legal system, the Canadian Human Rights Commission operates completely outside of natural law, yet it has the power to impose its decisions upon Canadians (as individuals and as a people) as if its decisions were legislatively empowered. Every one of their decisions effectively ‘writes law’ as potent as legitimate laws passed in the House of Commons.

It is essential that people understand that the Canadian Human Rights Commission is entirely a political instrument. Its transparent window-dressing as an arm of the law is cosmetic only.

The Canadian Human Rights Commission’s record of attacking conservatives and conservatism speaks for itself. What they did to one of their latest victims, Scott Brockie, was unconscionable, but the outcry his case engendered was not powerful enough to discourage the CHRC. They are now moving further up the conservative food chain and are going after non-establishment conservative political leaders and conservative websites.

This has gone on as long as it has because we, as conservatives, have allowed it to happen. Unless we draw a line in the sand, they will not stop. Why should they? They are only carrying out their true mandate.

The Canadian Human Rights Commission has apparently decided to draft Free Dominion to stand across the line from them.

We will answer their call.

To understand this coming battle we must first examine the terrain. As with all these standoffs between the CHRC and conservatives, much of the battle will be fought behind closed doors where few normal checks and balances apply. Playing on their field by their rules is a losing proposition, so we are going to take the battle to the people of Canada and beyond.

The CRHC has virtually unlimited resources at its disposal and a cimmera of legality with which to clothe itself. It has an impressive array of firepower, though much of it is to a free society what nerve gas is to war. Its problem is that its opponent has no physical reality (outside of a server in America and the backup copies that exist). Free Dominion is much more than a database in a computer somewhere, it is an idea, an expression of a political philosophy that we have chosen to call principled conservatism.

It is apparent from the nature of the complaint, and the CRHC’s participation in its execution, that the goal is the silencing of Free Dominion. The only thing certain in all this is that that isn’t going to happen. The reason that I can say that with such certainty is the Canadian Human Rights Commission doesn’t have the power to silence Free Dominion.

The second part of this battle is going to be waged on the internet and in other media and the real judges will be the people of Canada, and beyond, who we will treat to a grand tour of the CHRC. The CHRC wields total power behind closed doors, but they wield none in the marketplace of ideas provided by the internet, and that’s where we will fight the second war.

We have taken long term strategic measures against this day and we are implementing tactical procedures in preparation for what is to come. In this part of the war the CHRC will be playing on our turf, and in the marketplace of ideas they are at a distinct disadvantage.

What we are witnessing here is the inevitable result of the culmination of incremental chains conservatives have allowed liberals to impose on us all. This had to happen because we allowed the groundwork to be laid. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t view this as an opportunity to turn the tide.

Principled conservatives understand what is at stake here, and they understand how we got here and where we, as a nation, went wrong along the way. This battle the CHRC has drafted us into will cover many fundamental ideas and concepts and will clearly show the perversity of having an institution on the loose that operates above the law. With the internet we now have the ability to bring these many concepts right into the homes of Canadians.

Let the dialogue begin. Our country will be a better place for it.

Source

The following list shows all of SoCon Or Bust’s postings on the shameless attack against Connie Wilkins, Bill Whatcott, Free Dominion.ca, and all Canadians who value their right to freedom of speech perpetrated against them by a paranoid bunch of Leftist losers who can only advance their agenda by political and star chamber type threats instead of open debate and dialogue.

Victory! – FD off the hook for now [Aug.05.07]

Sign the Letter of Support [July 31.07]

FD-CHRC squabble on Michael Coren’s TV Show [July 27.07]

My Catholic Brethren and the Star Chamber Few [July 26.07]

Freedom Snatching Commie-Commissions [July 26.07]

Kangaroo Courts and their Pimps Endanger Canada’s Peace [July 25.07]

My Complaint Against the CHRC [July 25.07]

A Possible Out for FD [July 24.07]

Media Reports on the Kangaroo Court [July 23.07]

You Little Punk [July 23.07]

Connie Wilkins on Michael Coren’s Radio Show [July 22.07]

Free Dominion Day Poem [July 22.07]

CHRC vs. Conservatism [July 21.07]

What the Chill is Going to Mean to the Left [July 21.07]

Attack on Religious Liberties by the Left [July 20.07]

Leftists’ Smackdown of Free Speech [July 19.07]

Human Rights Attack on Free Dominion [July 18.07]